Monday, February 13, 2006

Teaching your children to be good anarchists

Feb. 2, 2006

The modern Jewish state has so far avoided what brought down its biblical forbears: civil war.Yes, there was the sinking of the Altalena in 1948 and an attempt to storm the Knesset in 1952 after the passage of the Reparations Agreement with West Germany. There were some violent rallies in the wake of the Lebanon war, and there were the murders of peace activist Emil Grunzweig and prime minister Yitzhak Rabin.

Still, modern Israel saw nothing like the war in which the entire tribe of Benjamin was nearly wiped out by the rest of the Israelites, or the bloodbath between the warriors of David and Abner, or the violence between the Hasmoneans and the Hellenizers, or the clashes between the Zealots and their opponents while the Romans laid siege to Jerusalem.

In terms of its scope and damage, Wednesday's clash heralds no civil war. In terms of its instigators, however, the war is already afoot, and in terms of their prospects, they already have lost.

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Blogger G-D SQUAD said...

Just something I was thinking about lately: This past week I was super excited because I received two new pins in the mail from, one with a picture of challah that says "Challah back!" and one with the orthodox anarchist symbol, and below that it says, in Hebrew, "and other than You, we have no king who redeems and delivers."

So I've been thinking, what does it mean to identify as an orthodox anarchist (not that I do, but in general, what does it mean)? And I'm pretty sure it's that none of these political systems we have today are good enough, G-d is the king of kings, and G-d's authority is the only one to follow.

Of course, G-d's law says we should follow the law of the land, no question about that. But I think to call these kids anarchists is correct. They want the kingdom of G-d, not some corrupt government, and they're willing to fight for it. They don't desire anarchy, they desire a higher-level of order, a divine order if you will. Anyway, just some meandering thoughts.

Mon Feb 13, 10:32:00 PM 2006  
Blogger gogalucky said...

but that isn't exactly anarchy... it's like, religion stuff + anarchy, but the religion stuff has a system, and the fact that there is a system in place means that true anarchy is impossible.

and what about the israel from years and years ago? what about the monarchy?? that's much further away from anarchy than democracy on the government scale...

corruption gets better with truly democratic states.. it might be slow, but things will get better..

Mon Feb 13, 11:58:00 PM 2006  
Blogger G-D SQUAD said...

The term "anarchy" can be used in different ways, and here I meant anarchy in the sense that "I'm not going to subject my will to a human ruler or to a body of representatives" or something like that. I've lived for a period of two weeks in anarchy, and it was a very organized and beautiful thing. But the point is, in Pirkei Avot, there is that one teaching that's something like, "make G-d's will your will, so that G-d will make your will G-d's will" or something. So here, your free will and G-d's will are one, and that doesn't necessarily require an intermediary or anything. So the point is, it seems to me, that one can be a political anarchist and be an orthodox Jew. But I feel like I might be rambling and maybe we all need a little of fedora black's wisdom right about now.

Tue Feb 14, 12:09:00 AM 2006  
Blogger gogalucky said...

two weeks in anarchy? :D and why didn't you stay?

oh, yeah, btw, who IS fedora black? :)

Tue Feb 14, 10:22:00 AM 2006  
Blogger Fedora Black said...

Despite my time in SC or at UCSC, I have yet to understand what all the bunk about "anarchy" is about. If you look in most dictionaries (by the way don't do this...TAs hate when students say "according to Wester's dictionary, "bla-bla-bla" means...") it will say something about "lack of stable government" or something like that. We tend to see it as something bad, although if you are a fan of our favorite self-hating Jew, Noam Chomsky, it seems that anarchy can be a good thing.

I actually like g-d squads take on things. One can be an anarchist in the sense that one is against human forms of government, and, to quote Hebrew National, only "answer to a higher authority". Keep in mind that even though we had kings, and will have a king again, he is not like the kings of old Europe or other places, who could do as he pleased. He had to follow a strict set of guidelines. Rememeber that a king must write a torah scroll himself, and always have it with him! This is why things went to heck after Shlomo HaMelech; most of the kings forgot what it meant to be king. In addition, we had a division of powers, with the priesthood being removed from kingship. When the lines get blurred, as when the Macabees made themselves kings, things go wrong again.

Note also that Pirkei Avot speaks quite a bit about being cautious of government, perhaps thinking of the Jewish governments of the time and the Roman government.

So perhaps we can conclude the following: A government that strives for heaven is not only a good thing, it is mandatory! When it doesn't, be careful and carry a big stick...Amona anyone?

Tue Feb 14, 06:33:00 PM 2006  
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